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I personally was thinking of this continent as pretty bare. Rocky with some ruins. The middle part being low and to the west and east the height would increase.
keep in mind that while mostly accurate to our current plan, the map in the article will probably undergo some gradual changes as development continues.
Watch out not to make a small enviroment too rich when it comes to variation in landscape. Desert, plains, forest, jungle AND mountains? I think that's way too much. I imagined this island to be a bit like Iceland. Mainly these parts of Iceland:
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:NesjavellirPowerPlant_edit2.jpg]
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Gr%C3%ADmsey_Iceland.JPG]


Water in the middle and steep cliffs at the East and West coast.
==Political Situation==
Don't get me wrong, the map looks ok. But it's just way too much packed in a small enviroment if you ask me.
Argaes is not officially under rule by a single political power, but sometimes it's hard to tell.  Trade City is accurately described as the economic hub of a small nation and is the capital of Noobland(obvious placeholder) .. its government focuses mainly on encouraging unification talks with the nations other two states; Zartam and Sonbral. Though Noobland's intentions are genuine, their perspective is disagreeable to Zartam and Sonbral, who have refused any serious discussions on the matter of unification.
[[User:Modanung|Modanung]] 00:53, 13 September 2007 (CEST)


:I think such a landscape would result in pretty boring maps as there are few natural obstacles. --[[User:Crush|Crush]] 02:13, 13 September 2007 (CEST)
Sonbral's conflict is fairly simple.  When Argaes first revealed itself, it was blanketed by a thick forest. However, after a massive quake, a boulder made primarily of (a really hard ore / metal) suddenly rose from the ground, cutting off a vital river.  The forest soon died, leaving a dusty wasteland.  It was soon after this that explorers and settlements came to Argaes.  (not many people ever got a first-hand look at the forest of Argaes) The people that settling in the east, named the are Sonbral. Many of the settlers came from Tonori and because of their conditioning, enjoyed the dryness and the heat. 
::Without mountains you can still have steep natural walls, just not that tall (1-3 tiles). And how about big slabs of rock and cravices? What's the difference between that and a desert? [[User:Modanung|Modanung]] 14:13, 26 September 2007 (CEST)


[http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/Modanung/argaes1.png Here's] a quick and rough concept of how I think the continent should look like. Pretty barren except for some low vegitation, maybe savannah-like (warm Iceland).
The people who settled in the north opted to cut down most of their forest, in exchange for some farmland. It has worked out wonderfully, but they long ago saw demand creep higher than supply. Long story short, they rely too heavily on imports and desperately need more farmland. Being the smallest continent, Argaes has little land to spare, but only a small percentage of it is currently being used for agriculture. (the area around Trade City and Port Town)
[[User:Modanung|Modanung]] 21:22, 9 October 2007 (CEST)


Trade City's government is urging to somehow resupply the river to rejuvenate Sonbral to its former habitability.  Sonbral is strongly opposed to this idea, because it threatens their way of life.  More seriously than that.. Sonbral's capital is built in the bed of dried up lake, which the river used to feed.  If the river flows again, the citizens of Sonbral will need to build new homes.  Trade City has assured Sonbral that its people will be taken care of, but of course, Sonbral feels they have little reason to believe this claim.. they are also surviving quite adequately in what many consider a wasteland.


This was a proposed continent for a new starting location.  That was the initial reason for making the environment so abnormally diverse; to give the newbie-lowbie spectrum characters somewhere to call home for a while, before they venture abroad. If it were used in that way, it would give Tulimshar a good rest for a restructure.
Zartam is basically the same thing, but about logging and junk like that.. it's the classic, way of life vs expansionism ..


As far as the weather goes, the entire continent ''is'' supposed to be fairly warm, it's just not all savanna.. though there is a strip of it between Sonbral and the still unnamed trade city.  I guess we still need to make some facts about scale clear.


I had imagined each grid-square to be something of a measurement of travel-time.  Like maybe a grid-square = 1 day/ on-foot. That becomes a question of how many game days in a real life day.. average walking speed kinda factors in there too.. blah blah blah.  To bypass that whole conundrum, someone could attempt to figure out how many tiles in each grid-square.  Then it'd be a bit easier to plan for some locations, since size becomes an issue when spacing out cities and towns, etc.
[[User:Dabe|Dabe]]: ''please share your feedback ('''06:19, 19 June 2008 (CEST)''')
 
I'm about to upload an updated version of this map, but maybe I could expand your stretch of savanna.. or atleast reassure you that there will be plenty of space to make what you imagine.  Keep remembering when looking at the concept maps, that it's only a platform for the actual maps that will eventually cover it.  If you have a giant savanna region in mind that ends up blowing everyone's socks off but demanded more space than this small continent can offer, it would probably be moved to a more accommodating continent to preserve its coolness, rather than squeezing it here.
 
At any rate, the variety of terrain types was previously discussed and was intentional, despite it's apparent awkwardness.
 
-[[User:Dabe|Dabe]] 08:43, 22 October 2007 (CEST)

Latest revision as of 04:19, 19 June 2008

keep in mind that while mostly accurate to our current plan, the map in the article will probably undergo some gradual changes as development continues.

Political Situation

Argaes is not officially under rule by a single political power, but sometimes it's hard to tell. Trade City is accurately described as the economic hub of a small nation and is the capital of Noobland(obvious placeholder) .. its government focuses mainly on encouraging unification talks with the nations other two states; Zartam and Sonbral. Though Noobland's intentions are genuine, their perspective is disagreeable to Zartam and Sonbral, who have refused any serious discussions on the matter of unification.

Sonbral's conflict is fairly simple. When Argaes first revealed itself, it was blanketed by a thick forest. However, after a massive quake, a boulder made primarily of (a really hard ore / metal) suddenly rose from the ground, cutting off a vital river. The forest soon died, leaving a dusty wasteland. It was soon after this that explorers and settlements came to Argaes. (not many people ever got a first-hand look at the forest of Argaes) The people that settling in the east, named the are Sonbral. Many of the settlers came from Tonori and because of their conditioning, enjoyed the dryness and the heat.

The people who settled in the north opted to cut down most of their forest, in exchange for some farmland. It has worked out wonderfully, but they long ago saw demand creep higher than supply. Long story short, they rely too heavily on imports and desperately need more farmland. Being the smallest continent, Argaes has little land to spare, but only a small percentage of it is currently being used for agriculture. (the area around Trade City and Port Town)

Trade City's government is urging to somehow resupply the river to rejuvenate Sonbral to its former habitability. Sonbral is strongly opposed to this idea, because it threatens their way of life. More seriously than that.. Sonbral's capital is built in the bed of dried up lake, which the river used to feed. If the river flows again, the citizens of Sonbral will need to build new homes. Trade City has assured Sonbral that its people will be taken care of, but of course, Sonbral feels they have little reason to believe this claim.. they are also surviving quite adequately in what many consider a wasteland.

Zartam is basically the same thing, but about logging and junk like that.. it's the classic, way of life vs expansionism ..


Dabe: please share your feedback (06:19, 19 June 2008 (CEST))