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Notes about how to use User talk:

  • each user talk page has an additional option besides "Read", "Edit" and "View history": "Add topic", pick that one
  • "Subject/headline" at the top: just add what your message is about, e.g. "Question about how to use User talk"
  • add your message in the editor
  • end your message by signing it with "~~~~", when saving the page those characters will automatically be converted into your user page, user talk page and the date and time of when you wrote that message
  • confirm
  • if you only want to reply to an already existing topic, pick "Edit" and write your message following the style of the page, like when editting a wiki page, but remember to sign with "~~~~"

Anyway, feel free to leave me your message here if you have any questions regarding the wiki. Also note our General wiki discussion forum thread :)

Edit summaries

Good job at putting the edit summary! I wish everybody did that. That's about the right length for an edit summary, regardless of whether the edit itself is shorter than it or several pages long.
However, that's not the kind of change that's considered minor. Only spelling/grammar/formatting fixes should count as minor.
Thanks, o11c 16:57, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

High Priest Crown

HI, Cassy,
The image file in High Priest Crown is not working. Where can I find the item's image?
--Alexanderlime (talk) 07:49, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

Hiya, it's working fine for me: (lasts for 7 days).
Maybe something with your browser?
Cassy (talk) 09:27, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

I deleted the cache of my chromium and the image works now :)
--Alexanderlime (talk) 11:26, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

For wiki maintenance

hi i included the french in the {{branding}} for a better wiki maintenance.
and i removed {{Fr branding}} to use the original one on the french page.
i did the same with the {{Fr:Screenshots navigation}}.

Can you delete the french template now? {{Fr:Screenshots navigation}} and {{Fr branding}} there is no use for them now.
And like that nobody else who will come later will use them. ty
Altus Institute (talk) 14:13, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

Deleted them and one archived version ;)
Note that your user page still links to them.
Cassy (talk) 14:41, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

can you delete this template and page too?
{{.Fr:Skills shortcuts}} and {{.Fr:Skills}} and also {{.Fr:Basic skills shortcuts}}.
I included french in the english template, Alexanderlime formatted them to be easier to include others language.
ty =D Altus Institute (talk) 17:45, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
--edit:forget to ask deletion for this one too {{.Fr:Magic shortcuts}}
Altus Institute (talk) 17:52, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

Done, also deleted another redirecting page.
Same story again: your user page still links to some ;)
Cassy (talk) 07:31, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

Typo XD

Your user page's introduction, paragraph 1, line2:
you -> I :p
You can delete this topic after edited. --Alexanderlime (talk) 14:23, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

That's actually correct, the "you" is for talking in general, about everyone and not only myself. But thanks^^
Cassy (talk) 14:41, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

Mess in branding template

this is what i found about it but still the mess. find the code with my correction under the spoiler button, copy + paste + preview and you will see a big difference but i still not understand why. I checked the view history but i saw nothing. need to switch off the pc sorry.

<spoiler show="show" hide="hide"> <div style="text-align: center; border: 1px; border-style: solid; border-color: lightgrey; margin-bottom: 10px;"> {{#switch: {{NAMESPACE}} | De = '''''Folge und unterstütze uns auf:''''' | Es = '''''Siga y apoyarnos sobre:''''' | Fr = '''''Pour nous suivre et nous soutenir cliquez sur:''''' | Zh = '''''跟隨及支持我們:''''' | #default = '''''Follow and support us on:''''' }}<br>{{H:title|Facebook|[[File:Branding_facebook.png|link=]]|link=no|dotted=no}}|{{H:title|Twitter|[[File:Branding_twitter.png|link=]]|link=no|dotted=no}}|{{H:title|Google+|[[File:Branding_google+.png|link=]]|link=no|dotted=no}}|{{H:title|YouTube|[[File:Branding_youtube.png|link=]]|link=no|dotted=no}}|{{H:title|Steam|[[File:Branding_steam.png|link=]]|link=no|dotted=no}}|{{H:title|Reddit|[[File:Branding_reddit.png|link=]]|link=no|dotted=no}}|{{H:title|Imgur|[[File:Branding_imgur.png|link=]]|link=no|dotted=no}}|{{H:title|Sourceforge|[[File:Branding_sourceforge.png|link=]]|link=no|dotted=no}}|{{H:title|OpenHub|[[File:Branding_openhub.png|link=]]|link=no|dotted=no}}</div> <noinclude>[[Category:General Template]] [[Category:Translation Template]]</noinclude> </spoiler> Altus Institute (talk) 21:09, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

ty for fixing this Alex
Altus Institute (talk) 06:59, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

Huh, that's odd, I didn't see it like that when I edited it.
However, it's not completely fixed yet. We should add H:title back, of course without breaking things.
Cassy (talk) 07:46, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

Nevermind, I got it fixed :)
Cassy (talk) 07:55, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

Mess in Heart of Isis

Idk if its my brower or not, but when is watch (not edit) this page Heart of Isis, all info are on the right of the screen. Nothing on the left and in center. Altus Institute (talk) 15:06, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

It might indeed be your browser as it looks fine for me. Otherweise please post a screenshot.
Cassy (talk) 19:33, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

Nevermind, the template was buggy. From my other laptop everything looked fine but from this one I saw it too.
Cassy (talk) 19:48, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

Category "Translation Templates"

May I ask what's the use of this category? To categorize pages that added translations like Template:Status Under Construction or new translated templates like Template:.Fr:Metadesc ?
--Alexanderlime (talk) 10:13, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

I changed the description about categorizing translation templates again. Is it better now?
Cassy (talk) 10:45, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

Definitely :)
Alexanderlime (talk) 11:05, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

Multi-language template

Hi, Thinking about the translation category, you will put all template with a different english language in there. But how to know that a template is for one language ( and need to create on for our own language) and how to know that a template include multi-language?
Perhaps doing a sub-category in the template translation category to find easly a template with multi language? Its just a discussion, i thought about this, because if nobody is there and a new helper need to find or create a template how he will know if he must add his own language or just create a new for his own language?
Altus Institute (talk) 08:11, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

I need a bit more time to think about this.
Cassy (talk) 09:47, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

For several categories

I saw that you add and correct the category.
I tell you what i think about several categories. Ofc you do like you want because you do the job.
For me all quest even the magic quest and the skill quest, and annual quest could have the "quest category" because they are quest simply.
And like you said the board quest must have all the quests even the "dark green dye quest".
So for me the magic quest could have "categories : quest + magic quest".
Same for the Astral magic skill, this page could containt "categories : quest+magic quest+skill".
Why i would put like this the categories?
To make a loop, simply.
Like this the seeker will find his way without being lost and can find easly some others info. Its for that i did a footer (skill shortcut+basic skill shortcut) like you did the magic shortcut template.
With this kind of template is simple to navigate from A to B findind H and M and going back to A.
For me the categories could be used on the same principle.
Ps: sorry i sorting your own page because seems you missed my previous post, so i changed his place. (its multi language template)
Altus Institute (talk) 08:55, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

Well actually this is exactly what I'm doing^^
Except for category "magic quest". We have the categories listed here like "Quest", "Magic" and "Skill".
E.g. the Astral Soul Skill has all three of them.
Just be patient, categories and templates are still a huge mess, so I'm not finished yet at all ;)
Cassy (talk) 09:44, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

i18n Template

Please add the documentary page in i18n template
Thx :)
--Alexanderlime (talk) 11:57, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

Finally done!
Cassy (talk) 12:36, 12 March 2015 (UTC)


I've finished Category:Shield‏‎, Category:Head Armor‏‎, Category:Chest Armor‏‎ and Category:Ring's translated pages today. Please check if I made any mistake. Also, please delete Category:Bot, Category:Project:Crypt‏‎, Category:Project:Tonori‏‎ and Category:Project:Trade City‏‎, thx :P
Alexanderlime (talk) 08:41, 15 March 2015 (UTC)

Oh god no, that's very bad :(((

About the other categories I need to check.
Well I'll be saying thanks since I know you had good intentions but there was a reason why I didn't ask for help and why I added "Please don't work with this page yet" at the category page. Also I asked in the forum to please not interfere and leave this issue to me.
Next time please ask first.
I don't want it to sound bad now, so thanks again though since you had good intentions.
Cassy (talk) 16:52, 15 March 2015 (UTC)

Alright, from a first view Category:Shield‏‎, Category:Head Armor‏‎ and Category:Chest Armor‏‎ look good. You only forgot to transfer pages within Category:Item to these new categories by replacing Template:Item with the new templates and deleting Category:Item at the bottom of those pages. But this is no big deal, I will clean up Category:Item later anyway so I would have noticed and changed those pages anyway.
Edit: Btw how did you translate Template:Ring into Russian? O.o You speak Russian? Can you change the template from item to ring here too Ru:Simple_Ring? Thx!
Cassy (talk) 07:52, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

I'm lucky that my Russian friend's online so I seeked help from him :D
Sorry for making a mess in the categories~
Alexanderlime (talk) 09:48, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

Morgan - Candor

Working on updating and linking Morgan

Norc (talk) 20:18, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

Thanks to Bock for the Weapon-wand.png and Altus Institute for the Morgan.png.
Norc (talk) 22:54, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

Looking good ;-)
Cassy (talk) 06:31, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

Spells page (in general)

I am going through the Spells and making sure they are linked to appropriate Npcs, makes for easier navigation.
Norc (talk) 22:02, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

Looks good, makes navigating easier, indeed.
However, please always fill the edit summary when editting a page so the log shows what your changes were about.
Cassy (talk) 06:26, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

Will do. Thanks for pointing that out.
Norc (talk) 12:03, 21 April 2015 (UTC)


Will see what I can do here
Norc (talk) 05:43, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

Hmm we don't have a location sample page yet.
Hurnscald is a bit outdated but looks good.
Terranite Cave is a good example when it's about content.
Maybe this helps :)
Cassy (talk) 07:38, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

Thank you, it will. If my contrib to Nivalis can stand up to community scrutiny,
I'll do what I can for the other areas, unless they are already being worked on.
Also if my keyboard lasts ... still haven't replaced it :)
Norc (talk) 07:49, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

Sounds good and btw thank you for your contributions so far :)
I will create the Location sample page soon when I have time.
Cassy (talk) 08:27, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

After browsing around I see that main pages are already made up for the major cities.
I start a new job tomorrow, but I will still try to complete at least 2 edits a day, more on the
Norc (talk) 20:31, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

Red links

Instead of recreating indiviual items, would it be better to link redlink items to the items page that already exists?
Norc (talk) 22:09, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

Do you mean the item reference page? Then no because the red links remind us to create those pages.
Also it gets ugly to change all the links back so they link to the appropriate pages instead of the item reference one once a page gets done.
Cassy (talk) 09:07, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

Ok, thank you for clearing that up. Had to make sure :).
Norc (talk) 09:32, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

Working examples would be the ammo pages recently created, I know that a few details are missing, but they will get fixed.
Norc (talk) 20:27, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

Meta templates

Hi, Perhaps we can combine metakey and metadesc to make it easier to embed. What do you think?
Alexanderlime (talk) 20:06, 2 August 2015 (EDT)

That's actually a good idea. Will you do so?
Cassy (talk) 04:54, 3 August 2015 (EDT)

Sure but I'll keep those two templates so we can have time switching them. Also, I wonder if we can use preload function to make the templates appear when creating a new page.
~Alexanderlimetalk~ 06:21, 3 August 2015 (EDT)

You can also just add "{{Metakey}}{{Metadesc}}" in the new template, this way all of them will continue to work ;)
Cassy (talk) 06:47, 3 August 2015 (EDT)

Mpslinux and I finished replacing them (Really annoying work) except those locked pages. Please check it out here and replace {{Metakey}}{{Metadesc}} with {{Meta}}, thanks! :D
~Alexanderlimetalk~ 07:27, 4 August 2015 (EDT)
P.S. I meant to replace it completely (delete metakey and metadesc after every page replaced template) :P

Thanks! :) As you can see I already cared about the locked pages, adjusted the three meta templates and deleted that category.
Cassy (talk) 07:57, 4 August 2015 (EDT)

Code Eaten

Hi Cassy I'm seeking your help :p
When I edit my page, it shows only half of the code and if I save that, the another half will disappear (you can check my page's code) and it's really strange. Look forward for your reply :)
~Alexanderlimetalk~ 23:29, 4 August 2015 (EDT)

Heh, before I have to ready all of your page, what is where exactly missing?
I'm a little bit busy, so it would be nice if could direct point at it ;)
Cassy (talk) 03:57, 6 August 2015 (EDT)

If you add some symbols like U+1F34B (a lemon) into the code, everything under the symbol will be lost (don't wanna ruin your page XD) ~Alexanderlimetalk~ 06:31, 6 August 2015 (EDT)

Oh, yeah, I once had that problem too. Kind of weird...
Cassy (talk) 05:02, 10 August 2015 (EDT)

Addition of Esperanto to the Wiki languages

Hello! I would like to ask for the addition of Esperanto to the available translation languages for this Wiki. I am able and would like to contribute by translating the Wiki into this language. Would this be possible? Tirifto (talk) 13:51, 19 August 2015 (EDT)